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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:39 pm

1. Freaky. Creepy.

2. Love the Peter/Walter relationship here. Peter's still growing.

3. Talking about Peter, ACTION ! That's what I call taking charge. He figured it out, knocked doors...

4. Sebastian Roche is awesome.

5.Lots of P/O. In the car, the public toilets, a house, a hospital, they're everywhere ! All these looks... In the car, I was like "Come on Olivia, crack a smile !" then, at the hospital.... *sigh*

6. Lots of clues for us, GGGR and BlueYellowRed.

7. A bit too much inside a hospital for me, but i love the nurse from the mental hospital.

8. Paris - a bit disappointing, but on the other hand.... who else would have Walter to forget ? Maybe his wife asked Bell, since they knew each other before, maybe Bell wanted to be the only one remembering, so he could hide in another universe... ?
Dunno, just... expecting something else....

9. Sebastian Roche is AWESOME.

10. And Olivia making an emotional choice.... She's no robot, is she ?!


Some of the clues, will post the rest later.
Connexion better but still takes time to upload.








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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:40 pm

Concordance from BR... here's a bit on a figure from another Bowie movie you will find familiar...makes me wonder about ol' Bellie even more....

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Thomas Jerome Newton (David Bowie) is a humanoid alien who comes to Earth from a distant planet seeking a way to bring water back to his home planet from Earth. His home planet of Anthea is experiencing a terrible drought.

Newton uses the advanced technology of his home planet to patent many inventions on Earth, and rises to incredible wealth as the head of a technology-based conglomerate, World Enterprises Corporation, aided by leading patent attorney Oliver V. Farnsworth (Buck Henry). Secretly, this wealth is needed to construct his own space vehicle program in order to ship water back to his home planet.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:47 pm

Elliot wrote:
Concordance from BR... here's a bit on a figure from another Bowie movie you will find familiar...makes me wonder about ol' Bellie even more....

I'm starting to be more convinced that Bell is the one who hired TJN and told me where to find what he wanted. But which Bell ? After all, if our Bell is over there, where is the alter Bell ?
Maybe he never existed ? Or is he the one comploting ?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:48 pm

I kept wanting to get more answers, that from reading spoilers I knew I wasn't going to get.
But beside that, I was still very entertained. The new villain, the doctor, giving a "Hanibal Lecter"ish apology to the guy at first for leaving his head cut open, very high standards for bad guys on this show, and he seems pretty worthy. *claps*

P/O is still miles away for me now, I'm a reluctant convert to the "no wine before it's time" philosophy the show's stubborn about. Josh Jackson seemed more relaxed, and it looked good on him.
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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:02 pm

I think Bell and TJN are in cahoots. But... I also think there will be a twist to their involvement... and the twist in The Man Who Fell to Earth fits. Because if Olivia is right to trust Bell about the coming cataclysm... then she is also right to trust Bell that she needs to keep Peter by her side. And if Walter is right in his gut instinct about Bellie (not being evil) then there must be a twist.

And also a 2ndary twist; Bell might (like walter) think he is more in control of his situation than he is, and Newton may have gone off with a plan of his own, his killings can't be what a non-evil Bell would want.

So many layers!

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:03 pm

Added some promo pics









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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:25 pm

So, Newton knows Olivia's name from hearing Peter holler it into the phone? Or how? He knows Peter (or the original...) since he seems to know Walter from before.

And... I'm not going to rewatch it just yet... did Peter yell that he needed Olivia to help him BEFORE he could hear Newton say there was an antidote, or after?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:39 pm

I think he did both. I'll rewatch it.

Newton may have heard about Olivia from the other shapeshifters ? He somehow knew there was going to be someone who would keep the door, and he learned her name either by Bell or his shapeshift-sidekicks ?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:01 pm

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did Peter yell that he needed Olivia to help him BEFORE he could hear Newton say there was an antidote, or after?

he did it before
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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:19 pm

So, since she's no scientist nor doctor, Peter needed Olivia because he was in trouble and needed her. Nice.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:20 pm

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So, since she's no scientist nor doctor, Peter needed Olivia because he was in trouble and needed her. Nice.

My first thought when I heard that.
Cute.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:30 pm

Did you notice Bell's wrist ?



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The closest I could spot to an Observer



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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:39 pm

No, I hadn't. Thanks for noticing!

Is that a
1) prisoner's bracelet so he can't go out of state
2) piece of jewelry tying him to ZFT or FrozenHeadGroup or whatever
3) cuff hiding an artificial arm of his own
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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:41 pm

I didn't notice that either. As for the Observer, was there one in the episode?
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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:43 pm

Except the guy I've posted a cap of, I didn't see any Observer.

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Is that a
1) prisoner's bracelet so he can't go out of state
2) piece of jewelry tying him to ZFT or FrozenHeadGroup or whatever
3) cuff hiding an artificial arm of his own

I'm voting B.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:47 pm

I was too busy having flashbacks to look for the observer. Was he on the streets when they were zooming to the Bishops' old house?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:52 pm

No, when they were going to the men's room !
Look in the background, across the street !


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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:00 pm

Wow, good eye!
Any theories yet on ryb (byr I know was the order, but I've been thinking of it as ryb for what, over a year now?)?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:02 pm

RYB, BYR, BRY !

Primary color, first universe, secondary colors second universe ?

And the glyphs spelled "PORTAL"

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:11 pm

We haven't seen them in the glimpses of the other uni, have we? And when they have been really boldly shown (think Bad Dreams) that episode didn't deal much with alt-u's. . .

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:22 am

lezario wrote:
RYB, BYR, BRY !

Primary color, first universe, secondary colors second universe ?

And the glyphs spelled "PORTAL"

Yeah, interesting theory, it could be right...
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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:18 pm

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No, when they were going to the men's room !
Look in the background, across the street !



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eta : and just above him, BYR !

Nice catch, Lezario! And the final image with Bell asking Walter to think about the Doorway,
Walter IS the only one who knows where the Portal exists, now if he can just remember! scratch
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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:26 pm

But is Walter the only one ?

Broyles says at the end, to Olivia "there's only one Walter Bishop".
But we all know it is not completely true. What if Walternate had found a way to open a door ? If he's looking for his son, and knows he's in one of the alternate universe, he might have worked on opening a portal.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:39 pm

Yes, that whole business of Alter Walter could last a season by himself, at this rate!

I've thought AlterWalter has been trying to get through for 20 or so years, but AlterWalter can't figure out how to do it.
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PostSubject: Re: 2x10 "Grey Matters"   Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:48 pm

lezario wrote:
But is Walter the only one ?

Broyles says at the end, to Olivia "there's only one Walter Bishop".
But we all know it is not completely true. What if Walternate had found a way to open a door ? If he's looking for his son, and knows he's in one of the alternate universe, he might have worked on opening a portal.

maybe there's only one walter: we don't know if walternate is still alive....
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