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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 5:44 pm

Or maybe it is the combination of Cortexiphan and his blood that keep the portal open ?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 5:46 pm

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I also don't think that Peter would need something to help him after crossing over. I'm more for something to activate him, like Olivia in "jacksonville"....

But who is Dawn? O.o

Dawn is a character from "Buffy the vampire slayer".
She's Buffy's sister... but in fact, she was created by monks, and she's, infact, a "key".

"Mental" people don't see her as a human, but as a green glimmer....

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 5:48 pm

This could be the confirmation that cortexifan is actually peter's blood ....hummm..
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 5:48 pm

Peter's blood is red, but Cortexiphan could come from Peter, yes.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 5:50 pm

Oh, I agree, I think he can cross safely, he already has done.

Dawn is Buffy the Vampire Slayer's little sister, who was actually a ball of energy, given to her in the form of a pre-made sister by monks who were in charge of guarding it. They were protecting it from Glory, a goddess who wanted to use it to open a hole where she would reach her power over the earth (destroying it and Dawn in the process).

They knew Buffy could safeguard it (and the planet in the process) and everyone around Dawn received memories of Dawn having always been Buffy's little sister, though of course she didn't exist before the monks made her.

They made her out of Buffy, and so when Glory had Dawn ready for the sacrifice, and was going to (slit her throat? can't remember) and drop her into the wormhole or inferno or whatever, Buffy jumped instead ("death is your gift") and it closed the wormhole, prevented the apocalypse, saved Dawn and the planet...... and Buffy died. Again. Dawn became a real girl then (and I don't remember just why, do you, Lez?).

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 5:53 pm

I now remember the history of Buffy and her sister! I have not seen the telefilm for different time grins
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 5:54 pm

And Buffy & Dawn's mother knew, while she was suffering from the brain tumor, and thus mentally altered, that Dawn wasn't her daughter, but somehow "belongs to us", was special, and made Buffy vow to protect her.

All very noble and silly and over the top, and it still makes me tear up these years after having seen it.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 5:58 pm

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Oh, I agree, I think he can cross safely, he already has done.

Dawn is Buffy the Vampire Slayer's little sister, who was actually a ball of energy, given to her in the form of a pre-made sister by monks who were in charge of guarding it. They were protecting it from Glory, a goddess who wanted to use it to open a hole where she would reach her power over the earth (destroying it and Dawn in the process).

They knew Buffy could safeguard it (and the planet in the process) and everyone around Dawn received memories of Dawn having always been Buffy's little sister, though of course she didn't exist before the monks made her.

They made her out of Buffy, and so when Glory had Dawn ready for the sacrifice, and was going to (slit her throat? can't remember) and drop her into the wormhole or inferno or whatever, Buffy jumped instead ("death is your gift") and it closed the wormhole, prevented the apocalypse, saved Dawn and the planet...... and Buffy died. Again. Dawn became a real girl then (and I don't remember just why, do you, Lez?).

I don't remember her becoming a real girl, but I remember Buffy giving her a "you're a real person" speech, cutting her own arm to show Dawn they had the same blood.

Elliot wrote:
And Buffy & Dawn's mother knew, while she was suffering from the brain tumor, and thus mentally altered, that Dawn wasn't her daughter, but somehow "belongs to us", was special, and made Buffy vow to protect her.

All very noble and silly and over the top, and it still makes me tear up these years after having seen it.

Yes, and the monks sent her as if she had already been in the family since she was born.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 6:07 pm

There was never any more mention of her as the key, she just got to be a troubled adolescent after that, but no more special stuff--just that nice speech from Xander. I had the impression that once Glory's wormhole went pffft with Buffy's blood, that the power was broken--------but they dropped the energy thing after that, surely if she still had that kind of potential energy it could have been useful at the end, even if Buffy denied them the use of it for Dawn's sake.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 9:04 pm

“Today is the day for which you were created”....Walternate could have told this to the team, but maybe he was referring to Peter. It's possible....humm..
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 10:27 pm

Oh....my................god!!!
You HAVE to watch this new promo!!!!!!!!!!

http://watching-tv.ew.com/2010/05/11/fringe-season-finale-exclusive/
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 10:40 pm

OMG THAT ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 10:44 pm

The final scene with Walternate and Peter is really unnerving O_O
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 10:53 pm

I'll die.......I'LL DIE!!!

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 11:48 pm

"Take a few steps back, Agent Broyles!"

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 11:54 pm

What does Walternate say to Peter in the office?
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Wed May 12, 2010 12:55 am

"I can't imagine how strange it must be for you."

"I've seen the strange. This, this is something else."

and then, in back-masking at the end... "there's something on the other side", I think it might be.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Wed May 12, 2010 1:08 am

Wow, John Noble really looks different, in the face, for Alt-Walter. Who looks evil to me.

And Peter doesn't look like he likes what he sees.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Wed May 12, 2010 5:38 am

Elliot wrote:
"I can't imagine how strange it must be for you."

"I've seen the strange. This, this is something else."


Thanks Elliot!
At first i thought they were talking about peter's powers or his role in the war....grins
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Wed May 12, 2010 6:16 am

You're welcome! Now I want to know what charts or papers he's looking at. And if he's in the hospital before that scene in the office, or after. Cause it looks like Walter and Olivia trying to get him out of the hospital....

And I must say: AlterAstrid dressing like Che!
And go, fireball-girl!

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Wed May 12, 2010 6:23 am

Alt-astrid is really cool! Have you seen her eyes? I think they're all supersoldiers, and Peter could be their leader!

Ps. I really like Alt-livia! She's like Lara Croft grins
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Wed May 12, 2010 6:37 am

They are amazing, all of them. It's weird, because of course I want us to win, and Peter to come back home with Olivia and Walter, but I feel a bit sorry for them with these invaders popping up and weird things scaring them.

Until Alt-Olivia shot Walter, then I was glad fireball girl is there and want Peter to blow the doors off and go home. Here-home. And I'd like to know why AlterWalter never came for him until now...

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Wed May 12, 2010 7:53 am

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Wed May 12, 2010 5:09 pm

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Wed May 12, 2010 5:10 pm

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