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PostSubject: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sat May 08, 2010 11:59 am

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 6:15 am

Wow. Just wow. I should go outside and stare at the night sky, to cool my brain after that. Recollections tonight, a review tomorrow...............

The Alt-Titles! Bad Robot, you knock me out.

Almost everything in a spectacular episode. Apologetic, pleading and yet brave and gutsy Walter, a well Nick, a new headquarters and resources FD needed courtesy of Peter, and that desperate race against time and dimension. Olivia drinking in the bar in an echo of Momentum Deferred...

I'm seeing Brandon and thinking, teach your grandmother to suck eggs, kid? It would have been nice to get his reaction to finding out Walter started all this... But Nina sent him out of the room, some things are still classified!

"How big do those worms grow if you don't take your shots, Charlie?"
"Anybody got a Junior?" (How long do you suppose we'll wait for one?)

Eeewww! Kissing Nixon! *makes the sign agains the evil eye*

It's a testimony to BR and to the actors of Fringe that I can be yelling angrily at the alters and cheering for our side, all tribal, when they're played by the same people. And how I'm glad Alt Astrid is amazing, but still prefer our warmly amazing Astrid. Cheering on Fire Girl for nailing the guy who shot Nick, and then feeling sorry for the charred Lincoln Lee.

BadWalter: Abrahamic, and not in a good way. Machiavellian, and willing to sacrifice his own son. And Peter, that loveable genius-twit walking into a trap of his "real" father's making........... oh my god.
There's a betrayal that makes Walter a saint in comparison.

Noble as BadWalter........ astounding. I'm hating him.
I think Elizabeth though will maybe help Peter through..she seems not part of what goes on at SecDef. (Maybe she will move over home with Peter? Too weird for Walter & Peter? Probably.)

Olivia in her skivvies: ok, Altlivia wears white, I get it. BR may eventually get the fact that this does nothing for the Benchwarmers, but it does establish AltLiv isn't just like OurLiv.
Skeevy of Olivia to go stalk herself, while abandoning the wounded Walter. Hello, BR? She's a Marine, she wouldn't do that. Not if she's Good.

The weird wave device for sucking the life out of Peter and our universe? Ughrh, still going to have to convince me you're shark-free, BR, but I'm content to wait until next week........besides, I need a week to rest after this.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 7:41 am

McDonald's ? Red theme ? wow !

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 7:44 am

So much to process.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 8:35 am

OOOOOOOOOK.


OK.


hm. OK.



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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 8:38 am

Liquid brains?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 8:42 am

Aguagaaaaaah........


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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 9:13 am

1. WOW. I loved all the details, the red theme, some answers. ZFT !!! Reiden Lake.

2. Peter and his mom was heartbreaking. She doesn't seem evil to me ! And Peter seemed really happy to see her again.
But... I wonder if she knows what on these map, blueprints... because when she asked "you really understand all this ?", it felt like she has no science-y background, though I had imagine that she was a scientist, too.

3. ALSTRID !!! She got what ? Five minutes ? Come on, I want to see more ! It was interesting to see her next to Broyles.
Theirlivia : I like her, she's definitely not like our Olivia. And she doesn't like to drink And she's good at shooting.
Charlie : YAY ! It's so great to see Kirk again, even if he's bald and has this scar on his face !
"They're not worms, they're arachnids" Oh my gosh.
AlterBroyles has a very nice picture of the Eiffel tower in his office. grins

4. The Observer (did you spot him ? ) leaving the page next to Olivia... ah, nice Observer. I bet it was September.

5. Olivia drinking..... poor girl, she seemed really exhausted and a little bit tipsy.
I love how she convinced Walter, she would make a great daughter in law.
And that was sad to see her look at her alter window, seeing her alter self being happy with a man.... ah, Olivia, you're going to find him.

6. Bell.... I don't think he's evil. Even though his ego must be as big as the Liberty Hotel *wink wink*
Walternate.... I love him, even if it turns out he's evil. Did you notice his ring ? grins They're still married !

7. The deaths --- Cancer guy, too bad, I liked him, I'd have love to see more of him. The fire girl, i didn't like her, so i didn't care. Nick, ARHHH, I liked him.
Walter being shot.... Oh, I loved it. How he was trying to be okay, after he noticed he was shot. It was nice to see him fight and not just being shot and fell on the ground right after. he's pretty resistent.
And apologizing. Aw.

8. Other Scenes I loved ? Brandon !
And also the scene where Olivia finds the three Cortexiphan kids, and Nick Lane makes them all laugh - even Broyles
Oh, just seeing Broyles laugh made my day.
Olivia giving her her cross. And Rachel. Ar, poor girl, the hug, the cross, she must be scared to death right now.

9. Peter..... shirtless Peter.

10. I loved it, being s****d into the parallel universe, seeing everything we know -- or didn't have the chance to know -- familiar things and new ones. Peter will come back, but his mom ? She seems strong, but loosing him again... Somehow I wish she could live in our world.
And if both of the universes came to "blend"..... do you think we could have a mix of both ?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 9:14 am

I forgot something : WHAT kind of a mother is that ?
Usually, you would ask your boy "Do you have a girlfriend ?"

In theirlivia's apartment, there was a picture of the bridge from 2.18 grins

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 9:29 am

That's two votes for Peter bringing his mum home with him to meet Olivia. Which is kind of backwards, but would work for Fringe! And no, I don't think she knows what is going on. She is like the other mother, will help Peter know what to do. "Be a better man than your father."

And yes, I think Bell is working for good! Surprised me! I wonder why he can't (or won't) talk to Nina?

I think OtherLivia will agree to help Ourlivia--she and Ourlivia are good at heart & I think can connect. She may even tell Olivia she sees Olivia loves Peter and not to waste any more time.

................. so if we know the cause of the Pattern, and who the other side is, and who wrote the ZFT (!!) and that it is fake (!!), and --face it, our side will survive, if not both............... what else will there be to do? There must be a lot (nice new command center and all...) --will Peter be under cover there at first next fall? Then what?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 9:34 am

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That's two votes for Peter bringing his mum home with him to meet Olivia. Which is kind of backwards, but would work for Fringe! And no, I don't think she knows what is going on. She is like the other mother, will help Peter know what to do. "Be a better man than your father."

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I think OtherLivia will agree to help Ourlivia--she and Ourlivia are good at heart & I think can connect. She may even tell Olivia she sees Olivia loves Peter and not to waste any more time.

I believe so, too.

In the promo,
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 9:38 am

Yes, they will. After Olivia beats up TheirLivia, she will apologize and teach her to like scotch. Then they will round up a secret team and go save Peter (oh and both universes in the bargain.) And then AltLivia can come and visit on holidays. Brrr they'd better leave Altstrid home though.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 9:46 am

After rewatching, it looks as if Walternate -when he enters the device chamber and looks at the manuscrit- was wondering if it was a good idea.

I wish in the end they could all live in peace, and joined their forces against something even evil-er.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 10:40 am

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I wish in the end they could all live in peace, and joined their forces against something even evil-er.

That's the problem : we always need some enemy, we can't live in peace without 'a common) enemy , and when you're only two...
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 10:45 am

There are thousands of universes out there. Plus other dimensions.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 10:47 am

"First people" in the Theme.



The Flag grins



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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 12:44 pm

Epic episode!!!
But they were injecting cortexiphan to Peter??? o__O

And i was right when i said that the two drawings about the "thing" were the same!
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 1:09 pm

And you were right when you said you think that Peter isn't lying on a hospital bed !
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 1:28 pm

I loved this episode ! Many things to say, many details to see, a lot of clues !
It was fabulous ! grins

I noticed too the "first people" ! scratch

And that : do you remember it ? In the Bell's office ? grins And now in the Walternate's office !



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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 2:01 pm

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And you were right when you said you think that Peter isn't lying on a hospital bed !

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And the red substance in the scene where peter wakes up, is very very similar to cortexiphan! If it was true, Peter(and not James Heath) could have absorbed the energy from Nick and the other girl. Hummm...
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 2:37 pm

It's close, and Newton injected Mr Secretary something too, to help him getting better after the travel ?

I thought Rachel had her own apartment.... but she obvisouly doesn't. Or she had but just wanted to spend the night with her sister ?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 3:21 pm

Nice one, Stephy !

FF logo, McDo , and Eiffel tower picture in AltBroyles' office.


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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 3:25 pm

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It's close, and Newton injected Mr Secretary something too, to help him getting better after the travel ?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 3:26 pm

lezario wrote:
It's close, and Newton injected Mr Secretary something too, to help him getting better after the travel ?

I thought Rachel had her own apartment.... but she obvisouly doesn't. Or she had but just wanted to spend the night with her sister ?

I saw the last scene in "the man from the other side", and Newton injectes Walternate a yellow substance smile
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Fri May 14, 2010 3:28 pm

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lezario wrote:
It's close, and Newton injected Mr Secretary something too, to help him getting better after the travel ?


"Temporal...."? I can't read scratch
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