Wish Fulfillment Zone - Fringe Board
Hello ! Welcome on WFZ Fringe, a board where you can find News, Reviews, Spoilers, Pictures, Art, Fanfics, Games on the TV Show Fringe and much more !

About 112 members, 874 topics, 37980 posts since Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:28 pm

Don't forget to introduce yourself in the Help & Suggestions Section, in the Guest thread !

Wish Fulfillment Zone - Fringe Board

A Wishful Thinking Fringe Community... | ˙˙˙ʎʇıunɯɯoɔ ǝƃuıɹɟ ƃuıʞuıɥʇ ןnɟɥsıʍ ɐ
 
HomeFAQRegisterLog in
Latest topics
» Season 10
by Elliot Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:13 am

» Sleepy Hollow Premiere tonight!
by Elliot Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:19 pm

» Sleepy Hollow finale--what are your expectations?
by Elliot Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:29 am

» Early winter finale...harrumph!
by Elliot Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:17 pm

» John Noble' Henry Parrish to return!
by Elliot Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:21 am

» What every TV show can learn from Sleepy Hollow
by Elliot Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:00 am

» Comparing Orci/Kurtzman to JJAbrams: Sleepy Hollow & Almost Human
by Elliot Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:24 am

» 5x01 advance review (not spoilery)
by Elliot Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:44 pm

» 4x07 "Wallflower" - SPOILERS
by Elliot Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:46 am

» 4x05 "Novation" - SPOILERS
by Alice8433 Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:45 pm

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search

LINK US !

Photobucket



Share | 
 

 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 9 ... 14  Next

How would you rate "Over there - Part 1" ?
10
50%
 50% [ 4 ]
9
38%
 38% [ 3 ]
8
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
7
12%
 12% [ 1 ]
6
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
5
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
less than 5
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 8
 

AuthorMessage
jade86
Seeing the Shadow Man
avatar

Female
Join date : 2010-01-20
Posts : 1466
Location : Italy

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 7:24 pm

lezario wrote:
Oh yes, I had read your theory in the previous post.

Quote :
So he wants kill Peter and modifies the prophecy, leading to believe Walternate that sacrifing his son with his "powers" all the problems in the alter universe will solve.

I don't quite understand what you mean by that ? scratch

Forget it. It's not important.
Only absurd ideas grins
Back to top Go down
lezario
Wearing MIT shirt
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 11785
Location : Looking for Peter's MIT shirt

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 7:28 pm

No, no, what I mean is that i don't understand your sentence. Do you mean Rogue modifies the "prophecy" so Walternate thinks that Peter is the key ? scratch

________________________________

Fringe | The Simpsons | Grimm | Doctor who | Games of Thrones | Homeland | The Bridge | Elementary | Arrow | My Mad Fat Diary
Back to top Go down
jade86
Seeing the Shadow Man
avatar

Female
Join date : 2010-01-20
Posts : 1466
Location : Italy

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 7:35 pm

lezario wrote:
No, no, what I mean is that i don't understand your sentence. Do you mean Rogue modifies the "prophecy" so Walternate thinks that Peter is the key ? scratch

Rogue modifies the prophecy so Walternate thinks that the only way to save his world is the sacrifice of his son. But it's a stupid idea because, seriously, i don't think walternate would sacrifice Peter's life. Maybe the machine is designed specifically to use Peter's power but he will not die.
Back to top Go down
lezario
Wearing MIT shirt
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 11785
Location : Looking for Peter's MIT shirt

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 7:38 pm

I think all these years seeking for revenge has blinded Walternate.

________________________________

Fringe | The Simpsons | Grimm | Doctor who | Games of Thrones | Homeland | The Bridge | Elementary | Arrow | My Mad Fat Diary
Back to top Go down
Elliot
Seeing the man from the other side
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 13608
Location : North by Northwest

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 7:46 pm

I think that is right; he seems merciless, cold. The far end of the scale from Walter, who has gone through crazy to loving and self sacrificing. For him nothing in his life is as important as saving his son, and for Walternate his son is something to sacrifice.

I think Elizabeth-2 knows something she isn't saying.

________________________________

"A strong morality tale in between "Aahhhhhh, HELP!" moments."
Back to top Go down
jade86
Seeing the Shadow Man
avatar

Female
Join date : 2010-01-20
Posts : 1466
Location : Italy

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 7:49 pm

Yes, but i don't like the idea of "Peter the sacrifice". He already saw the death different times. I would be disappointed.
Back to top Go down
lezario
Wearing MIT shirt
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 11785
Location : Looking for Peter's MIT shirt

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 7:51 pm

"Peter, in the end, we have to take responsibility for our own decisions - the good and the bad."

________________________________

Fringe | The Simpsons | Grimm | Doctor who | Games of Thrones | Homeland | The Bridge | Elementary | Arrow | My Mad Fat Diary
Back to top Go down
jade86
Seeing the Shadow Man
avatar

Female
Join date : 2010-01-20
Posts : 1466
Location : Italy

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 7:53 pm

If it was really a sacrifice, i hope this wouldn't involve Peter's death.
Back to top Go down
lezario
Wearing MIT shirt
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 11785
Location : Looking for Peter's MIT shirt

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 7:58 pm

I still have this picture in my head, Olivia using this protection like she was a child.

________________________________

Fringe | The Simpsons | Grimm | Doctor who | Games of Thrones | Homeland | The Bridge | Elementary | Arrow | My Mad Fat Diary
Back to top Go down
Elliot
Seeing the man from the other side
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 13608
Location : North by Northwest

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 8:01 pm

I've been seeing Olivia repairing Peter's heart--replacing the batteries until she and he get his own back. And bringing him back to life by force of will.

________________________________

"A strong morality tale in between "Aahhhhhh, HELP!" moments."
Back to top Go down
lezario
Wearing MIT shirt
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 11785
Location : Looking for Peter's MIT shirt

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 8:09 pm

Olivia saving him, then Peter will choose where he wants to live.

________________________________

Fringe | The Simpsons | Grimm | Doctor who | Games of Thrones | Homeland | The Bridge | Elementary | Arrow | My Mad Fat Diary
Back to top Go down
Elliot
Seeing the man from the other side
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 13608
Location : North by Northwest

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 8:30 pm

I think he has always known, just didn't understand.

________________________________

"A strong morality tale in between "Aahhhhhh, HELP!" moments."
Back to top Go down
jade86
Seeing the Shadow Man
avatar

Female
Join date : 2010-01-20
Posts : 1466
Location : Italy

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 8:56 pm

Hummm....What if Peter wasn't the real son of Alt-Elizabeth and Walternate?
I mean, Peter maybe was born artificially as experiment. This could explain why Walternate was always absent in Peter's childhood and why he wouldn't run the risk of using his "powers" and sacrifing his life to destroy our world. Peter isn't his son.
Alt-Elizabeth took care of Peter, probably thanks to her maternal instict. She really loved and loves him, despite that.
This reminds me Tyler's story.
Back to top Go down
lezario
Wearing MIT shirt
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 11785
Location : Looking for Peter's MIT shirt

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 9:02 pm

At first I thought he was Bell and Elizabeth's son.
But I think he's definitely Walter's son.

________________________________

Fringe | The Simpsons | Grimm | Doctor who | Games of Thrones | Homeland | The Bridge | Elementary | Arrow | My Mad Fat Diary
Back to top Go down
jade86
Seeing the Shadow Man
avatar

Female
Join date : 2010-01-20
Posts : 1466
Location : Italy

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 9:17 pm

An utent from "**********" says that
Spoiler:
 
I feel better now grins
Back to top Go down
lezario
Wearing MIT shirt
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 11785
Location : Looking for Peter's MIT shirt

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 9:25 pm

Of course Peter won't die and will be here for Season 3, but there's "die" and "die".

Plus I don't believe this. No one sees the episode entirely until it airs, only artistic directors, directors, fox censuring department (and yet, all of these people take turns, and have specific part to work on, which mean expect the video editing supervisor no one sees the episode entirely.

Some times reporters get to see extended sneak peeks, but that's all.

And we all know that in Fringe, what you think is the end is rarely the end.

________________________________

Fringe | The Simpsons | Grimm | Doctor who | Games of Thrones | Homeland | The Bridge | Elementary | Arrow | My Mad Fat Diary
Back to top Go down
lezario
Wearing MIT shirt
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 11785
Location : Looking for Peter's MIT shirt

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 9:27 pm

And please, even if I don't consider this as a reliable source, don't forget spoiler tags as it is not a theory.

edit : And of course, Walternate didn't include Peter on his drawings...

________________________________

Fringe | The Simpsons | Grimm | Doctor who | Games of Thrones | Homeland | The Bridge | Elementary | Arrow | My Mad Fat Diary


Last edited by lezario on Sun May 16, 2010 9:27 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
jade86
Seeing the Shadow Man
avatar

Female
Join date : 2010-01-20
Posts : 1466
Location : Italy

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 9:27 pm

Yes, some artistic director, reporter ecc. could have seen the episode. This isn't the first time.
Back to top Go down
jade86
Seeing the Shadow Man
avatar

Female
Join date : 2010-01-20
Posts : 1466
Location : Italy

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 9:29 pm

I'm sorry. I forgot :(
Back to top Go down
lezario
Wearing MIT shirt
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 11785
Location : Looking for Peter's MIT shirt

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 9:30 pm

jade86 wrote:
Yes, some artistic director, reporter ecc. could have seen the episode. This isn't the first time.

Do you know that there are confidentiality clauses ?
You can loose a lot of money by revealing something.

Especially from huge channel groups. Like ABC, Fox, NBC.

________________________________

Fringe | The Simpsons | Grimm | Doctor who | Games of Thrones | Homeland | The Bridge | Elementary | Arrow | My Mad Fat Diary
Back to top Go down
jade86
Seeing the Shadow Man
avatar

Female
Join date : 2010-01-20
Posts : 1466
Location : Italy

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 9:31 pm

I didn't know O__O
Back to top Go down
Elliot
Seeing the man from the other side
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 13608
Location : North by Northwest

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 11:04 pm

All that being said, things do sometimes escape. It has happened before on Fringe.
And Jade is only repeating things she has found, same as anyone else. None of us here is a tv executive, we're all exuberant fans.

Besides, of course Peter doesn't die, he's the reason for the show and Josh Jackson is the male lead. Not to worry.

As to W'nate creating him---------both Peters were dying from the same genetic disease, so he'd have had to create both boys, so------no.

________________________________

"A strong morality tale in between "Aahhhhhh, HELP!" moments."
Back to top Go down
jade86
Seeing the Shadow Man
avatar

Female
Join date : 2010-01-20
Posts : 1466
Location : Italy

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Sun May 16, 2010 11:08 pm

Thank you Elliot smile
Back to top Go down
Elliot
Seeing the man from the other side
avatar

Female
Join date : 2009-09-01
Posts : 13608
Location : North by Northwest

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Mon May 17, 2010 1:18 am

You're welcome. I'm sure he's going to be fine!
Amazing how attached we get to the characters, isn't it? The writers & team, and of course the amazing actors, really have made us care about them.

________________________________

"A strong morality tale in between "Aahhhhhh, HELP!" moments."
Back to top Go down
jade86
Seeing the Shadow Man
avatar

Female
Join date : 2010-01-20
Posts : 1466
Location : Italy

PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   Mon May 17, 2010 5:09 am

Indeed! It's the first time i'm so obsessed with a show and his characters grins
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there - Part 1"   

Back to top Go down
 
2x21 "Over there - Part 1"
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 5 of 14Go to page : Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 9 ... 14  Next
 Similar topics
-
» what is (or was) your least favorite part of high school?
» Feeler for Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham F/S or part out
» Leftovers from 8 Impala part-outs...lots of good stuff left!
» MAP Submersible, part 2
» Henry's pick a part in blackstone last minute trip

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Wish Fulfillment Zone - Fringe Board :: Walter's lab :: Fringe :: Episodes :: Season 2-
Jump to: