2x21 "Over there - Part 1"

Oh God Elliot!
Where did you find it? O_O

I don't believe it's observers's writing

have you ever heard of that french -and religious- scientist, I keep forgetting his name, who said "Before I enter my lab, I leave God in the lobby".

I have a list of alchemicals symbols on my computer, so i recognize a lot of them on this pic.

I'm finishing with the european culture thing, and I'm on it.

No, i don't remember

I remember the triangle in the cercle being rotation or something, and the on the left melting.
I see Gold, Mercury...

I'm trying to understand what kind of writing the observers use, but it's too difficult! >_<

It is, and it is hard to even focus on some of it. Plus, they (or whoever made this) use different scripts and languages. Where's Asterix and her cryptography when we need her?

I noticed that the pattern of the prophecy looks like the Kabala Tree (or "Tree of Life").

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The "Tree of Life" constitutes the synthesis of the most known and important teachings of the Jewish Cabal. It is a diagram, abstract and symbolic, constituted by ten entities, called Sefirot, prepared long three parallel vertical pillars: three to the left, three to the right and four in the center.
The central pillar extends above and below the others two. The Sefirots correspond to important metaphysical concepts to real attributes or emanations of the Divinity. From a theological point of view such Sefirot or 'Lights Increate' they are considered therefore of not created substance, but as emanations they are not real ipostasi and therefore they don't possess the divine nature. Besides, they are associated also to the practical and emotional situations crossed by every individual in the daily life. The Sefirots are ten fundamental principles, recognizable in the messy and complex multiplicity of the human life, able to unify and to give sense and fullness. Observing the figure, you can notice that the ten Sefirots are connected from twenty-two channels, three horizontal, seven vertical and twelve diagonals. Every channel corresponds to one of the twenty-two letters of the Jewish abjad.
The three pillars of the tree of the Life correspond to the three streets that every human being has before: the love (right), the Strength (left) and the Compassion (center). Only the median street, called also "regal street", has in itself the ability to unify the opposite ones. Without the central pillar, the tree of the Life becomes the one with the knowledge of the good and the evil (that biblical). The pillars to the right and to the left also represent the left the two fundamental polarities of the whole reality: the male to the right and the female one to the left, from which all the other couples gush out of opposite present in the creation.
As the Bible says, the street that conducts to the Tree is bewared of a couple of cherubs, two angels armed with a flaming sword. This however it doesn't mean that the street is entirely inaccessible. According to the oral tradition, the two Cherubs possess the one a male face and the other a female face. They represent the two fundamental polarities of the existence, as they are expressed on the most elevated plans of the awareness. With the gradual approximation and reunification of such principles, these angels stop being the "Keepers of the threshold", whose performs it consists of move away all those people who don't have the licence to enter, and become the pillars that sustain the door that brings back us to the Garden of Eden.

Ps. You have to note the term "Keepers of the Threshold", and also the fact that the figure of peter in the machine is disposed in correspondence of the Sefirà "Tiphareth", the Balance.

Tiferet - Balance

It is the Sefirà entrusts to harmonize the two opposite operational ways of Chesed and Ghevurà. Tipharet is constituted by many reunited colors, the coexisting of so many tonalities and different characters, integrated in only one personality. It's in the complex tried emotions contemplating the beauty and the aesthetical harmony. It corresponds to the experience of the Compassion, that is measured love, able to reward and to praise, but also to reproach and to peacefully punish, if necessary, so that good always imposes him on the evil with great strength.In the human body it's located to the center of the heart.

( heart... do you remember "Brown Betty"?)

Here is my theory (and then you can tell me if i'm crazy or not )....

I think the Observers are the First People. This "First People" has different versions, but if we tie this to the show, we can connect it to the first inhabitants of the earth in an epoch in which only one universe existed, and they were endowed with particular powers. We know that the Observers travel into time and they watched the most important moments of the history, therefore their origins can be very ancient. Then, according to me, since our Walter and Bell have interfered with their experiments, the history has taken different roads in every universe. The Observers can see the future, therefore even they knew that 2 universes would be formed and that a war would be instigated. A thing similar to the Mayas's forecasts, according to which there would be the end of the world because of the continuous interventions of the man. In this case we talk about an interdimensional war caused by man's mania of grandeur, who wants to go over the bordering on science at all costs. The Observers have chosen to observe the parallel universe, because technologically more advanced on different aspects, and they knew that there would be the presuppositions for the birth of "one of them" who would have somehow inherited the Dna of the "First People." Peter therefore could be the "select", whose performs is to avoid that the 2 universes enter in collision.
This could be also the meaning of the original prophecy that, as i pointed out, has something in common with the Jewish Cabal, above the points specified.

I remember the "Becoming Jewish" book, never read it entirely, but interesting.

I think Kabala right spelling is "Kabbalah" or קבלה .

This had been brought up during Lost theories discussions :
תפארת About Tif'eret, it's all about energy.
Being in the middle of the tree, anything passing through will be reversed.
Energy being transmuted or transformed into mass, to create something new sacrifies has to be made.

It's hard not to think of Peter as Tif'eret.

Albert Pike also mentionned that Freemasonry derived from Kabbalah, I think.

Yes, it's very interesting. An user from an Italian Forum about Fringe pointed it out.
My face was --->
Did you read my theory?

Oh no, I was writing my post when you posted it. I will read it fast, answer you quickly, and will read it closer this evening, when my exams for today will be over, if you don't mind.

I want to graduate !

jade86 wrote:

The Observers have chosen to observe the parallel universe, because technologically more advanced on different aspects, and they knew that there would be the presuppositions for the birth of "one of them" who would have somehow inherited the Dna of the "First People." Peter therefore could be the "select", whose performs is to avoid that the 2 universes enter in collision.

This idea is very interesting, indeed !!

Herited the DNA sounds, again, like Stargate and Ancient gene.

Peter is linked to the Observers, that's for sure.

I will read again later, I have to study one or two things before leaving.

Don't worry Lezario...I'm a University student, too. So, i understand

Fox website posted the prophecy in high res....

I just rewatch Brown Betty, and the drawing in Walter's book about the "permanent smile" reminded me of that head symbol on Walternate's bookshelf.

Yes! That's where I'd seen it before! Thank you!

-------did you notice the chocolate grinder in those pages?

Woww Lez! Those guys on Walter's book look like the observers O.o

I just needed a little P/O dance scene before going to bed, and stumble upon this.

And the TEDDY BEAR.

Ok guys, i'm pretty sure that the original prophecy has been written in "Phoenician" and is Observers's writing, because among the letters of Phoenician alphabet that appear on the books where they (the observers) take notes (the other symbols are similar to Greek ancient and the others by-products from the Phoenician one), i have found a simbol that we know very well!

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There are some signs that look like Phenicien, like ʾāleph (taurus, bull; "silent" in Hebrew) and yōdh (hand), but other than these two.... I don't think it's Phenician.

Phenicien is not the only language that use "ʾāleph" nd "yōdh", languages derived from it or brotherlanguages as Hebrew and Arabic, also Syrian use the same names for letters.

If Observers have been observing us from the very beginning, it could be a mix of several civilizations writings (like a mix of arabic, maybe samartian, or others middle eastern / proche orient writings ?

About the writing from Observers's books, you're right. There's a mix of ancient symbols. About the parchment i'm pretty sure it's Phenicien, or at least the writing around Peter's head.
I did a long search about ancient writing this morning XD

Ooh, can you explain more?

Elliot wrote:

Ooh, can you explain more?

This morning i was searching something about First People, especially the Native. I was glancing a web site, when i saw a table about 4 kinds of ancient alphabets deriving from Phoenician and i saw a lot of symbols very similar to those on Peter's parchment. So, after i spent all the morning in this search, i realized the writing on the parchment is Phoenician (i think!)