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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:20 am

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No, I didn't remember it was his last words to her, not in the alley, back at the hospital where the character died? At any rate, I found it almost as consoling as she did. And a pretty Jedi force trick from Sam.

"The Yoda crap !" she said ! smile)
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:01 am

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All to find out Sam's somewhat mysterious power to make her find the combination of business cards, jumble the first and last letters of the 3?-4 people she approached, to have it come out "You're gonna be fine" to an Olivia who felt very much alone at that moment. *thumbs up*

There's an old theory used here during sessions with psychologists.

It's based on the same concept as Sam's little game, but not with business cards. Usually with books that are in the room, or in a library, or paintings, you take -only- the first letter of every book/paintings you chose, and you have a phrase.

Subconsciously, you chose the book with first letters that meant something to you, and you end up with what you want to read.

It's a bit like when you see only what you want to see.
Here, you try to cope with something by creating something familiar.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:23 pm

Even the sturdily science-minded me can see how one could find one's own answers in that fashion. Rather like waking up and translating one's dreams.
My only problem with all that was Olivia's being operated by yet another man. Even critics are beginning to notice: "What is it with Fringe and men and women's memory banks?"

But with male writers, I don't expect that theme to ever really change in the show. A pity, but I don't think it can be helped. You have to be aware of a problem to be able to change it, and the male defaults are so ingrained... *sighs*.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:38 pm

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Okay, darn, no Halloween show? I was hoping....

according to
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:41 pm

So...
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:43 pm

i'm guessing it would ;o)
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:24 pm

Does anyone know what kind of books Vince Fly writes? There's a hardcover one by him on Walter & Peter's coffee table at the end of the episode.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:51 pm

i think it must be fictional when i tried to google it i found nothing which is a bit odd.
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:58 pm

Really? They are usually good with using real authors. Maybe it's a title?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:59 pm

if it is i still can't find anything....
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:14 pm

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Cathy904 wrote:
No, I didn't remember it was his last words to her, not in the alley, back at the hospital where the character died? At any rate, I found it almost as consoling as she did. And a pretty Jedi force trick from Sam.

"The Yoda crap !" she said ! smile)

Oh yeah, I think the whole "Sam" thing is pretty unabashedly Yoda-like.

But I think she should be treating him with a little more deference, the business card trick was pretty cool!

And the color red, I wish I'd clicked onto that. I'm afraid BookWorm is going to have to come up with all the brainy revelations while we watch new episodes. Thursdays are just great to have the show, but because it's also the end of my work week I'm a little fatigued. It doesn't lessen my enjoyment of the show (or playing with ya'll), but I wish I'd realized those folks were wearing red. The taxi driver is flat out blinding with his red shirt on, LOL!
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:17 pm

Ahh.. Auntie Google says Vince Flynn is the NY Times bestselling author of counterterrorism novels featuring Mitch Rapp--and here's a blurb from Vince's site:
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Vince Flynn’s thrillers, featuring counterterrorism operative Mitch
Rapp, dominate the imagination of readers everywhere. In them, Flynn
captures the secretive world of the fearless men and women who, bound
by duty, risk their lives in a covert war they must hide from even
their own political leaders.

eta... here's a cartoon showing someone costumed as Mitch.... look a bit like anyone we know and love?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:22 pm

oh you think it could be FLYNN instead of FLY? yeah, it makes sense....
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:24 pm

Yes, I can google like crazy but my typing is horrific, and that screencap was unclear; when I went back and re-squinted... well!

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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:33 pm

"Flynn" seems to be the more logical choice, but I don't see anything especially unusual about his fiction, his covers look like Tom Clancy artwork. But, maybe that's the point, that's he's a good author.

Anyone wanna read a Flynn book?

I called in sick the day the Challenger disintigrated, and it was in January, not June. Husband came to wake me up after I'd called in, I said, "Is something wrong?" And all he said was something like, "You need to come see something." That was a terrible thing to watch.
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:38 pm

Elliot wrote:
Ahh.. Auntie Google says Vince Flynn is the NY Times bestselling author of counterterrorism novels featuring Mitch Rapp--and here's a blurb from Vince's site:
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Vince Flynn’s thrillers, featuring counterterrorism operative Mitch
Rapp, dominate the imagination of readers everywhere. In them, Flynn
captures the secretive world of the fearless men and women who, bound
by duty, risk their lives in a covert war they must hide from even
their own political leaders.

eta... here's a cartoon showing someone costumed as Mitch.... look a bit like anyone we know and love?

Wow. That sounds very familiar to the "Fringe" plot, Must be Vince Flynn.
Nice catch!
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:48 pm

never heard of that vince flynn guy before....
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:09 pm

Me neither, and I would not want to read a whole series on an anti-terrorism investigator theme, too emtionally wringing-----but I think it is a nice nod, a way for BR to open the door and put on coffee for that audience.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:52 pm

you're probably right
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:32 pm

Maybe it's just a nod to what his plotlines have in common with "Fringe" characters, another easter egg while we wait for the show to come back in November.

Ugh, when in November do we come back?

P.S. He's written 10 books, so he's probably a fair read. smile


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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:33 pm

I'm thinking the...5th. I'm not positive, though
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:35 pm

*gasp!* The smilies are back! *wiggling in my desk chair*

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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:32 pm

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I'm thinking the...5th. I'm not positive, though

you should be, 5th it is!

Neutral

it seems like an eternity to wait though
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:33 pm

I know. *sighs* Damn hiatus.
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PostSubject: Re: 2x05 "Dream Logic"   Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:36 pm

i'll have to rewatch the previous shows like for the umpteenth time... and write more debilitating fanfictions
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