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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:28 pm

I think so, maybe---she was trying to hurry Walter to find a way to get him there, and isn't it her voice asking if Olivia can maybe take him home?

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:30 pm

Yes, she says Olivia might be able to take him there.

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:44 pm

So do you think they try, and he doesn't want to stay, after all?

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:47 pm

No, I don't think it's entirely his choice....

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:57 pm

since the observer said he would die if he went back, maybe they intervened.

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:05 am

Elliot wrote:
...try this link...
http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/02/fringe-episode-315-subject-13-new-promo.html

Oh my! That worked, thanks a lot!
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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:11 am



(have you seen it?)

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:11 am

Yes, it worked when I first tried it. Walter's wife tells Walter how bad it is being around Peter all day & that it's been going on 6 months.
He apparently becomes despondent after 6 months, takes a cinderblock out onto the ice and is about to throw it in when Walter's wife comes out onto the ice.

So, from whatelse, it looks like Walter introduces him to Olivia.That's much later than I thought the cortexifan trials were going on.

But I was still happy to see the footage!
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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:46 am

It makes you wonder why she was still in the trials, doesn't it? This makes it what, 5-6 years? And that's AFTER the scaring her silver-eyed.

Do you think Peter1 had been in the trials to some degree, at least his data/on the sly? Those drawings in the lab notes are by a younger hand than a 9-year old's.

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:59 am

Oh, gosh girl, 1. I'm willing to forgive a lot of inconsistancies, 'cause I love the show and I know they've been through writers, 2. At least Kurtzman and Orci remain consulting producers. I watched "Hawaii 5-0" tonight, they have a log-off of 4 hands typing like mad on an old manual typewriter, "K/O paper productions" I think pretty cute!

Howevah, I got up out of bed to leave the thought that maybe "6 months later" meant 6 months later when we next see AltLiv, or everyone, for that matter, but then I remembered as I was opening the website, Peter's been with them 6 months when Walter's wife tells him how hard it is to watch him. Oh well!

But if the Entire show moves forward 6 months, that'll be a little bit of a surprise!

It does seem like too long a time for Olivia to have been in the experiments since she was the small child lost in the woods. Olivia says they were made to forget the experiments, right? But 5 years in the classroom with no memory of Walter?

This will be interesting to see. If I hadn't seen someone since I was 8 or 9 I could very well forget Walter's face, but I'd think he'd need to be under an alias, 'cause I remember my 5th grade science teacher Mrs. Matney. I forgot another teacher who I became close to in my 5th and 6th grade, but with just a liiiiittle bit of memory jogging, I should be able to remember......

Oh, well, back to bed!
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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:45 am

Sleepyhead! (I'm up looking for news about New Zealand's quake :( )

I wasn't saying I think it's an inconsistency (that would be too huge to miss even for harried writers I think).
Maybe Olive was in and out of daycare? Navy families move around a lot.

Maybe this: they are agonized to send Peter home, remember Olivia from the original J-ville trials, and bring her back to assist in this special case, with Peter?

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:13 pm


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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:18 pm

grins I just nipped in here to post that grins Notice her colorful clothes!

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:23 pm

Yes, indeed !

Ah, cute younglivia.

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:30 pm

Nice new nickname!

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:50 pm

Elliot wrote:
since the observer said he would die if he went back

He never said that peter would die if he went back Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:41 pm

I think he did.... in "Peter". scratch

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:57 pm

In "Peter" the observer only said that Peter was important, so he had to live because he was dying
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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:08 pm

Hm....... I think that's Walter who said that... in 2x22.
He didn't say Peter would die, he implied it in conversation with Olivia :

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WALTER: Well, after I brought Peter from the other side, some years later, one of them came to visit me. Well -- well, he told me that I had to agree to never let Peter return to the other side.

OLIVIA: Why?

WALTER: Well.. because if I did, this would happen.

OLIVIA: Okay, but what is this, Walter? What does it even mean?

WALTER: Look, look, it is exactly what it happens to be. See? I think my son... is going to be responsible for the end of the world.

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:11 pm

Exactly. Walter thinks that Peter could die, but he can't be so sure grins
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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:16 pm

I'm sure Peter won't die - or at least not "die" as "die".
His heart could stop for 5 minutes and thanks to CPR he's brought back to life.

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:18 pm

He did indeed say that. Look in the lab notes.

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:18 pm

Or in Peter's case "death" could mean "rebirth", like the ancients thought
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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:30 pm

Whatever it refers to, the Observer wanted Peter to live, and he couldn't do that over there, he had to stay over here.

And since Peter is 1/3 the show, he will live (has already lived through his childhood, too grins).

Has ANYONE heard or read or sniffed ANY spoilers about what comes after the Machine/AltU storyline? I know they're working on it, setting up things for it, I'm dying to hear what comes next.

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PostSubject: Re: 3x15 "Subject 13" - Spoilers   Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:37 pm

Elliot wrote:

And since Peter is 1/3 the show, he will live (has already lived through his childhood, too grins).

I'm with you that Peter will live, but because he is the heart of the show not that 1/3 Elliot smile

Elliot wrote:

Has ANYONE heard or read or sniffed ANY spoilers about what comes after the Machine/AltU storyline? I know they're working on it, setting up things for it, I'm dying to hear what comes next.

I can't wait too. Fortunately the machine/peter shapeshifters killer connection will come back in episode 16! grins
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