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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:41 am
Elliot wrote:
For Jade.... this might be where they got the idea for the writing on the box:
What is that? O_o
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:29 pm
Citytv - Fringe Cast interview October 2010
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:38 pm
Josh: "he is in the process to realize maybe not who he is but WHAT he is..."
Interesting
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:52 pm
Right now he's Theirlivia's toy.
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:06 pm
Come on, seriously
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:26 pm
I'm serious !
Peter : Hello, I'm Peter. Give me a hug !
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:21 pm
Do you prefer the term "idiot led about by his ****"? It's the same thing.
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:29 pm
Jade----that's images of the text used by the Krell, in 'Forbidden Planet', from the film, and with some definitions.
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:32 pm
Elliot wrote:
Jade----that's images of the text used by the Krell, in 'Forbidden Planet', from the film, and with some definitions.
Wow! I didn't know
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:50 pm
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Do you prefer the term "idiot led about by his ****"? It's the same thing.
Just like a lot of guys.
Hello, I'm Peter. Give me a hug.
Oh, that's reminds me of "Elmo" in the Simpsons, when Moe plays with it, Elmo says "When Elmo says no, it's no !" and slaps him in the face
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:58 pm
I knew I had to save them for you when I saw them!!
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Oh, that's reminds me of "Elmo" in the Simpsons,when Moe plays with it, Elmo says "When Elmo says no, it's no !" andslaps him in the face
Yes! (Have I told you lately I love you, Lez?)
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:44 pm
No you haven't !
And you "haven't asked for my signed photo in months !"
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:47 pm
Sorry!
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:20 pm
mmmmmmmm what he is......... he is like a power source.Do you think he is that way because his genes or due to an experiment....or something else???
by the way... good catch elliot!!!!, I didn't know about the text used in forbidden planet.
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:21 pm
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because his genes or due to an experiment
Maybe both.
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:29 pm
Yep; I think, because of an experiment on him, to try to make him into the thing that would power the machine. Since (IMNSHO), Walternate is all about the power, and nothing but the power.
racoca, thanks , and do look at my thread on alchemy stuff in fringe, and jade's as well; there are lots of pics and explanations (well, as far as we have been able to figure out what they are up to.)---- I have some more stuff to upload to it, but my eyeballs are falling out, so that will have to wait for another day, I expect.
And you may have something to add to those, so please chime in!
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:36 pm
I think he was created years and years ago by first people and the observers. Maybe they were the first civilization. They created peter for a reason. Then maybe something happened and the first people were trapped in the amber, while the observers took refuge underground. Then, somehow, the old technologies (and peter's experimentation) were found and some first people were able to survive and liberated from the amber. Do you remember what sam weiss said? He's older than he looks
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:48 pm
mmmmmmmm.... interesting jade86. I want to find out what or who is peter, I also think that the fact he can use the doomsday device is just a manifestation of his ability but not his destiny. I don't believe he was created just for the device....well lets say I hope so. I love this season!!
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:18 pm
racoca wrote:
the fact he can use the doomsday device is just a manifestation of his ability but not his destiny. I don't believe he was created just for the device....
Agree. Expecially since the keep harping on choice. If Peter has no choice, why bring it up? And if he has no choice, he is no better than a machine.
For a wonderful view of protagonists taking the "destiny" idea (which I find to be inconsistent with reality, anyway) into their own hands, look at the way Buffy The Vampire Slayer ended.
She found a way to NOT do what the watchers intended her to do, in their way (they wanted to force her to take on demon powers & lose her humanity, told her it was the only way to defeat the demon horde)---she and her friends changed that prophecy, made their own choices, and distributed that slayer power amongst all the willing, all the potentials.
I so, so much wish that BR would let that happen with Peter and Olivia, let them help each other find a way to fashion their abilities into something THEY control, and get to make their own choices.
You know, the way humans do, outside of fiction, every day.
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:18 pm
racoca wrote:
mmmmmmmm.... interesting jade86. I want to find out what or who is peter, I also think that the fact he can use the doomsday device is just a manifestation of his ability but not his destiny. I don't believe he was created just for the device....well lets say I hope so. I love this season!!
Indeed! I think that peter's creation isn't completely related to the doomsday machine. Peter is important for a different and more important reason, and that machine (like other ancient technologies), built after his creation, could be his weapon. But i think he is able to show his abilities in a indipendent way....Without techs.
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:21 pm
I also think that the advanced technologies from "over there" were originally first people and observers inventions (the use of amber for example).
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:24 pm
Do you think Sam Weiss is a First Person? And somehow manifests himself to Olivia? (that whole Nina in the doctor's office thing for example seems bizarre)? And what is he up to?
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:28 pm
There's a video about the weapon, peter, first people and sam weiss, where the writers explained that sam could be a first people (a race in the knowledge of very old tech )
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:55 pm
Yes, I was hoping we had even more theories on that here! Like, what is Sam up to, not just who he is. Do they want to use Peter (via Olivia) to activate the weapon to destroy the humans?
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Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#1) Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:57 pm