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lezario Wearing MIT shirt
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:30 am | |
| Olivia is coming back soon ! | |
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racoca Staring at Peter's MIT shirt
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:56 am | |
| yes I rewatched the pilot too but didn't find anything new or big..... about the finale.... its about season 1 or 2?? yes olivia is coming back episode 8!!! but I'm curious about how Altlivia will go back her universe?? | |
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racoca Staring at Peter's MIT shirt
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:57 am | |
| Fringe - Episode 3.07 - The Abducted - Short Promo
http://www.spoilertv.com/2010/11/fringe-episode-307-abducted-short-promo.html#ixzz15LMkpsGh
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lezario Wearing MIT shirt
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:09 am | |
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lezario Wearing MIT shirt
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:32 pm | |
| Anna Torv on Leno's Tonight show (November 15) | |
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Elliot Seeing the man from the other side
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:55 pm | |
| ...are we sure fakelivia is going back any time soon? How are they going to retrieve her, do they have intra-universe idiot-mitten strings now? | |
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Elliot Seeing the man from the other side
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:12 pm | |
| ... anyone got a different link for the spoiler tv one? It just goes to a blank page for me. | |
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Elliot Seeing the man from the other side
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:26 pm | |
| ... I could toss a kiss at Pinkner if Peter were threatening to kill...... you know who. (Hey! Maybe Nina gets tipped off and calls Peter, clues him in?) | |
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racoca Staring at Peter's MIT shirt
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:50 pm | |
| I think Peter was threating altlivia ....they find out the truth, but how?nina?? or maybe olivia is able to comunicate with the other side( typewriter? ) and talk with peter so he spy altlivia " image peter and the computer" to be certain, and he realizes she is not his olivia... I want episode 8 !!! | |
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lezario Wearing MIT shirt
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:32 pm | |
| - Elliot wrote:
- ...are we sure fakelivia is going back any time soon? How are they going to retrieve her, do they have intra-universe idiot-mitten strings now?
She will stick around for a while, I guess. Maybe they'll send her back right after the Christmas hiatus ? - Elliot wrote:
- ... anyone got a different link for the spoiler tv one? It just goes to a blank page for me.
That links to the same vid as the youtube video I posted. | |
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lezario Wearing MIT shirt
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:34 pm | |
| - Elliot wrote:
- ... I could toss a kiss at Pinkner if Peter were threatening to kill...... you know who. (Hey! Maybe Nina gets tipped off and calls Peter, clues him in?)
Sadly, I think he will threaten you-know-who. - racoca wrote:
- I think Peter was threating altlivia ....they find out the truth, but how?nina?? or maybe olivia is able to comunicate with the other side( typewriter? ) and talk with peter so he spy altlivia " image peter and the computer" to be certain, and he realizes she is not his olivia...
I want episode 8 !!! Maybe she'll appearin the FBI building ? And they go looking for her because they think it's Theirlivia ? But she manages to escape, and that night, Peter looked on Theirlivia's computer, figures out the whole thing, and Theirlivia aims her gun at him ? | |
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Elliot Seeing the man from the other side
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:20 am | |
| She's certainly in Olivia's night shirt while she is aiming the gun. Maybe she sees what he is reading on the computer? I just read the coolest recap/review of last week's ep, from FL, and this phrase needs no translation: BitchLivia y Peterstupid.(The google trans of it to English is here, there are some really good points, amongst them these: - Quote :
- During that first scene in Bolivia is seen clearly upset by all this have to do. Her face as she looked at Peter was almost repulsed by having to sleep with him. However, she obviously continued with her mission.
According to episode 221, Over There 'The Vacuum' was designed by William Bell, as it has something like his signature. So is this a true replica based on the original, which is on our side? Or amended by Bell?
The First People: * There before Adam and Eve and even before the dinosaurs. * They were a highly technological society. * They are the creators of The Vacuum. * The way they saw the time was different. The week was 6 days and months varied between 12, 34.17, 9, 15, 8, 42, 40 days. * The first people disappeared from the surface of the earth by a cataclysm, which did not leave any trace of civilization. * In episode 221, Walter mentioned there was an earlier civilization that had the ability to cross between worlds, but that ability disappeared.
Maybe they are still there on the other side, and helped make technology move faster there, maybe that's why Walternate found a cure for Peter, he knew where his illness really came from. Maybe Peter's mother has a link with these First People, and I do not think Walternate has.
On several occasions both in this episode as in the previous one taking place in our reality, we see Bolivia trying to mislead Peter and the team, sometimes she does sometimes not, but the manner in which she looks at both Markham and Peter while they were talking about The First People, gave me the impression that she already knew everything there was to know of them.
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Elliot Seeing the man from the other side
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:29 am | |
| - lezario wrote:
- Elliot wrote:
- ... I could toss a kiss at Pinkner if Peter were threatening to kill...... you know who. (Hey! Maybe Nina gets tipped off and calls Peter, clues him in?)
Sadly, I think he will threaten you-know-who.
Meaning fakelivia--he could shoot her, I wouldn't mind. If you mean you think he will threaten Our-know-who, sadly, I think maybe so, but of course she will be ok. He is going to need serious mental therapy, isn't he? | |
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jade86 Seeing the Shadow Man
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:18 am | |
| Am i only one who thinks that peter could be a first people? | |
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Elliot Seeing the man from the other side
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:00 am | |
| I would say, not a First People but related to them, maybe. His mother might be related to them. "Genetic disease" both in him and deadPeter...they stress that all over everywhere, so the genetic part is an important detail, isn't it?
The First People wouldn't be like enough to humans to interbreed now, but their strain might be there, the way Neanderthal strain is still there in some folks in (where was that? the coast of England somewhere?). | |
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racoca Staring at Peter's MIT shirt
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:10 am | |
| - jade86 wrote:
- Am i only one who thinks that peter could be a first people?
well I agree with Elliot I think Peter is part first people .... is probable he has the same disease that first people. How is it posible?? I don't know.... manupulating dna....or inherited? I remember when walter told Peter that was Bell who introduced elisabeth to him. maybe peter's mother has something in her dna related with first people?maybe Bell new about the prophecy ...all of this trips to europe seem a little suspicious. | |
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jade86 Seeing the Shadow Man
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:23 am | |
| Well, i think that the machine needs an autentic First people DNA to work. I don't think it would work with a person that isn't an original and "complete" first people. If Sam weiss is one of them.....why not peter. The genetic disease is still a mistery for me. I thought that alter elizabeth was a first people for a while, but what if she couldn't have children? | |
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Elliot Seeing the man from the other side
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:27 am | |
| I'd hate to think Bell knew about the prophecy, that would make it too neatly tied up.
I don't think Walter even knew all about the prophecy, even when he was well. But probably he and Bell knew something, from the Observer telling Walter Peter would be OK as long as they stayed here. Those old lab notes hold a lot... "the boy is the key"... What was the conference on, that they met at? It was in Germany. And what did Peter's Mama do, exactly?
------------ Jade, you sound so certain when you say you think that. Do you have something to refer to? | |
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jade86 Seeing the Shadow Man
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:34 am | |
| No, i don't elliot. Maybe what makes me sure about my suppositions are all those small and apparently insignificant clues in different episodes that instead can be the pieces of a puzzle. | |
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racoca Staring at Peter's MIT shirt
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:37 am | |
| jade I thought about that but then if Peter is first people why walternate has no ability? We haven't see it. and the machine ....if it works with first people dna why the prophecy its about peter? I mean any first people could manage the machine then why Peter? what you think? I hope next episodes will give us more information to especulate .... | |
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jade86 Seeing the Shadow Man
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:42 am | |
| Surely racoca! You're right, any first people could manage the machine, but maybe Peter is a different first people. I can't wait for other cool informations too | |
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racoca Staring at Peter's MIT shirt
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:46 am | |
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Elliot Seeing the man from the other side
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:55 am | |
| I think that Peter is important (to the observers and the rest of the universes!) but not for his DNA. I think it is because our Peter will decide to look, and will find, a way to save both universes, where perhaps deadPeter (whose DNA was the same, and the Observers didn't save him) would not have succeeded in finding it, or maybe not believed that there could be, let alone had to be, another way.
I think that the things that make Peter who he is are not his genetics but his life, his morals, his choices, and his "family": Walter and Olivia, who help him be his best.
In the other universes where this plays out, it plays out badly, and both universes, or at least one, go into the void (the vacuum). But in this scenario, with our Peter, both are saved because he finds a way to think outside the box. Not because of protein chains and mitochondria.
That's my guess. | |
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lezario Wearing MIT shirt
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:19 am | |
| - Elliot wrote:
- She's certainly in Olivia's night shirt while she is aiming the gun. Maybe she sees what he is reading on the computer?
Yes, I think that's what happens. - Elliot wrote:
- On several occasions both in this episode as in the previous one taking place in our reality, we see Bolivia trying to mislead Peter and the team, sometimes she does sometimes not, but the manner in which she looks at both Markham and Peter while they were talking about The First People, gave me the impression that she already knew everything there was to know of them.
Yeah, the way she said "Oh, the first people." sounded as if she knew this book existed. - Elliot wrote:
- lezario wrote:
- Elliot wrote:
- ... I could toss a kiss at Pinkner if Peter were threatening to kill...... you know who. (Hey! Maybe Nina gets tipped off and calls Peter, clues him in?)
Sadly, I think he will threaten you-know-who.
Meaning fakelivia--he could shoot her, I wouldn't mind. If you mean you think he will threaten Our-know-who, sadly, I think maybe so, but of course she will be ok.
He is going to need serious mental therapy, isn't he? I meant he will threaten Ourlivia. She will be fine. - jade86 wrote:
- Am i only one who thinks that peter could be a first people?
I don't he is one of them, but he's clearly related to them, somehow. - jade86 wrote:
- Well, i think that the machine needs an autentic First people DNA to work. I don't think it would work with a person that isn't an original and "complete" first people. If Sam weiss is one of them.....why not peter. The genetic disease is still a mistery for me. I thought that alter elizabeth was a first people for a while, but what if she couldn't have children?
That's reminds me of Stargate SG1/Atlantis..... to make the Ancient technology works, people need the Ancient gene. Some people have it, some don't. | |
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Elliot Seeing the man from the other side
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| Subject: Re: Season 3 General Spoilers (#2) Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:31 am | |
| That 'ancient gene' thing is awfully common nowdays, isn't it? Seems like all the sci-fi kind of shows use it. It must have a GREAT populist. | |
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