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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 5:46 pm

Huh. What if they made a group over there, like the cortexikids here? If they have that code, they could have sequenced a replacement?? (ICKKKKKK) ?Is that the Lincoln Lee guy? The one shown kissing Non-Olivia through the window blind?

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 6:01 pm

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Episode 21:RETURN

The episode hasn't aired yet.... "Unearthed" was added to this list....

Episode 121:AVENGE

Episode 11:MUTATE
Episode 12:WINDOW
Episode 13:FATHER
Episode 14:REVEAL
Episode 15:PETERS
Episode 16:ENERGY
Episode 17:SECRET
Episode 18:BRIDGE
Episode 19:HEART
Episode 20:RETURN

What about.... ALTER, COLLIDE... ?
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 6:06 pm

It's the stupid confusion over how to number the episodes, I think, Lez. I do so hope they stick to one system of numbering next season. I dragged this list off a page of notes I collected, if you can correct it, if everyone here can correct it so we know for sure, that would help.


Oh......... and having just peeked at discussions on other sites, wondering over who dies in the finale.......... remember that Walter can bring anyone back from the dead, and the producers have said that no doors should be closed in the finale, so------even if things look bleak, I am sure there will be a way to fix things. Plus, the relationships between our three will be being repaired by the end, they have said, so we can rest in that.

And with that spoonful of pollyanna-power, I'm off to transplant.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 6:09 pm

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It's the stupid confusion over how to number the episodes, I think, Lez. I do so hope they stick to one system of numbering next season.

I think so. People who waatch Fringe occasionally or the ones who don't read spoilers or participate in forums thought it was a normal episode.

I was thinking Bell (because of Nimoy).
Not Olivia as she's been there already.
I don't think it could be Astrid...

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 6:18 pm

I want it to be Bell because nobody is emotionally invested in him. Except maybe Nina! But she's tough.

(I've had a couple of self-satisfied chuckles today looking at other forums where they threw tantrums over how non-canon, waste of time Brown Betty was, and are now taking symbolism from it for the finale............ can't have it both ways, can we, boys and girls?)

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 7:09 pm

Nina kissed Broyles... I don't think she will have too much trouble forgetting Bell... *wink*

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 9:15 pm


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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 9:30 pm

The smoke (but seems more fire) comes from Peter's eyes. I also don't understand the thing over Peter's head. I see a balance but i'm not sure...
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 9:35 pm

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The smoke (but seems more fire) comes from Peter's eyes

I'm not blind, I know there's smoke from Peter's eyes, but there's also smoke coming from the thing over him...

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 9:46 pm

Maybe the smoke from Peter's eyes surrounds the thing over him...grins
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 10:37 pm

I won't tell you, then.

The thing over Peter's head is a space ship, I think--those are landing feet. I came in here to ask for a better screen cap than I can get, but I will have to bring what I have over I guess.

They are trying hard for the look of the page of Leonardo's with the machine gun, I guess.

I have a couple of more caps, uploading will take a bit of time (though frankly less than waiting for pages here to load, which is very odd.)

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 10:40 pm

Space ship?? Woww *.*
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 10:57 pm

Elliot...
I tried to do a better screencap of the "thing" over Peter's head. You're right, it seems a space ship...Or could be a machine smile

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 11:16 pm

Here we go...



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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Mon May 10, 2010 11:17 pm

Yes, at the top it might also be hands reaching down to it? Which of course changes the size. but it really looks like a

OMG

it looks like the lander thingy from Lost In Space!

Danger Will Robinson!

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 12:11 am

...really, though, it looks more like something from Leonardo's line of tanks... and they do seem to be going for the Leonardo look to the page.

They PROMISED they weren't going to Rambaldi us. They PROMISED! I would be so pissed....argh.

a little something from 'Lost in Space'


A Leonardo page


A Leonardo tank

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 5:47 am

Can you explain me the connection between peter and leonardo please? I didn't understand grins
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 6:10 am

I don't think there is one, myself. At least, I hope there isn't.

The reason I brought him up is the page with Peter and the DNA appears to be modeled after those pages in the 'Rambaldi' manuscript that featured in 'Alias', where Sydney was prophesied to save the world, or end the world, or whatever.

And those pages and the Rambaldi figure were modeled after Leonardo da Vinci himself, and if you squint hard and drink a bit, you can see parallels between Leonardo and Walter, minus the artistry. Leonardo was not a mystic, they fused a bit of Nostradamus into the stories----he was a lousy prophet but I do have his orange marmalade recipe, if you'd like it.

As that prophecy/pseudo religious thing is entirely lame and has no place in a show having anything to do with science, (and you've seen all my other complaints, I won't bore you further), I sincerely hope that is not where they are going, at least from "our" point of view. If it's some mania by a madman, or acknowledged as loopy by Walter & Co., to be despatched fast, I can hold my nose while it plays out.

In a way a religious prophetic thing is the ultimate expression of the anti-intellectual mania and paranoia that give us things like the ZFT manuscript--the followers of one present day creature, Jensen, are becoming quite cultic.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 6:15 am

Thank you Elliot! smile
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 9:21 am

It reminds me of the ship Walter and Bell used to travel through time in the Fringe Comics books...

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 9:26 am

Have you ever been in one of those Leonard's tank, Elliot ? There's one that was built at the Leonard museum. grins

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 9:27 am

I always have a shower in Leonardo's tank grins
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 12:33 pm

Hummmm....I rewatched the video. If you pay attention to the first seconds of the promo, someone is administering to Peter a substance like cortexifan. The colour seems the same.
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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 5:26 pm

No, but I've seen photos of ones built to scale.

Yes, they're administering something to Peter--the drip did look similar---either something to help him after crossing (doubt he'd need it) or something to 'activate' him.

He's looking more and more like Dawn, isn't he?
And I'm starting to think Walter will 'jump off the tower' (or Alt-Elizabeth) in his stead: 'sacrifices will be made'.

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PostSubject: Re: 2x21 "Over there Part 1" - Spoilers   Tue May 11, 2010 5:41 pm

I also don't think that Peter would need something to help him after crossing over. I'm more for something to activate him, like Olivia in "jacksonville"....

But who is Dawn? O.o
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